Whatever happens at the Olympics, it wont be as bad as the abuse that Falklander James Peck has suffered for taking Argentine citizenship in order to see his children in Buenos Aires. Argentines applaud him for taking citizenship which was available to him. He still retains British citizenship. The Kelpers responded with death threats.
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David Cameron Confronts Cristina Fernandez (UK v Argentina)
by cofty incameron briefly confronted the argentine president cristina fernandez de kirchner when they met at the g20 meeting in mexico today.. the prime minister told ms fernandez she should "respect the views" of islanders who are taking part in a referendum on the issue of control.
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David Cameron Confronts Cristina Fernandez (UK v Argentina)
by cofty incameron briefly confronted the argentine president cristina fernandez de kirchner when they met at the g20 meeting in mexico today.. the prime minister told ms fernandez she should "respect the views" of islanders who are taking part in a referendum on the issue of control.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRIJygFeb3E
Pink Floyd - The Final Cut. 1983
F*** all that we've got to get on with these
Got to compete with the wily Japanese
No need to worry about the Vietnamese
Got to bring the Russian bear to his knees
Well, maybe not the Russian bear,
maybe the Swedes
We showed Argentina
now let's go and show these
Make us feel tough
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David Cameron Confronts Cristina Fernandez (UK v Argentina)
by cofty incameron briefly confronted the argentine president cristina fernandez de kirchner when they met at the g20 meeting in mexico today.. the prime minister told ms fernandez she should "respect the views" of islanders who are taking part in a referendum on the issue of control.
- read more at bbc.... i never thought i would offer praise of a tory leader but hey credit where its due..
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Hong Kong’s 99 year lease was only for what was known as the ‘New Territories”. Hong Kong proper and Kowloon were actually ceded to Britain ‘in perpetuity’ by the feckless Qing Dynasty. Since China wasn’t going to renew the lease, it would have been impractical to return the New Territories while keeping the other two. The New Territories were Hong Kong’s lifeline, and their return to China would have left the city almost completely dependent on the mainland anyway.
Thatcher’s government was espousing a leaseback agreement with the PRC at about the same time as they were discussing the same thing with Argentina regarding the Malvinas. The PRC rejected the leaseback and insisted on all three territories being returned in 1997, and got their wish in 1984. Argentina accepted the leaseback option in principle. Thatcher’s deputy, Nicholas Ridley, was in support of this plan and went to Stanley to sell it to the islanders. The islanders rejected it, and the Falklands lobby in the Commons started to get more vocal and so the government started stalling Buenos Aires. It was within this vacuum that the junta made the decision to retake the islands. The HMS Endurance was to be withdrawn, and the invasion was to originally happen during the austral winter of 1982. A few drunken Argentine scrap metal workers on South Georgia decided to raise the Argentine flag and shoot wildlife, which prompted the British to dispatch a nuclear submarine to the area. The junta pulled the trigger prematurely, and the debacle of the Malvinas War thus began.
Every indication points to the British government wanted to rid itself of its colonial responsibility in the Malvinas from the 1960s up until the 1980s. Simon Jenkins notes in his book “War in the Falklands” that had Argentina been a tad bit more patient (perhaps for a Labour government?), the Malvinas would have eventually been hers under a leaseback agreement. The principle here is one of military belligerence. China was even more stubborn than Argentina in refusing any British administration whatsoever after 1997. But they had the foresight that time was on their side, which unfortunately, the Argentine junta did not realise. The military action and subsequent war subjugated the anti-colonial Falklands speculations to the socialist fringe and leftist intellectuals in the UK. Had China decided to invade in the 1980s, who knows what would have happened? China then was a lot weaker than it is today. But the proximity of China to Hong Kong and the fact that it was even further than the Malvinas leads me to believe that the UK would have eventually accepted it as a fait accompli. The Malvinas by comparison are hundreds of kilometres from the nearest Argentine base in Rio Gallegos. They were just barely within the range of the Argentine Mirage warplanes, which meant that any attacking planes had little time to play with when hitting their targets. This had to figure in the decision at Whitehall on their decision to send the taskforce. Hong Kong was an unsustainable proposition. The Malvinas were a lesser gamble and a much needed morale boost after the British humiliation at Suez in 1956. The aggression of 1982 trumped existing British uncertainty over the invasion of 1833, and the current stalemate has resulted. We have the 1833 invasion of the Malvinas and the Ulster Plantations of the 1600s, yet when the demographics become favourable, we hear no shortage of the self-determination principle. 180 years too late from my perspective.
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David Cameron Confronts Cristina Fernandez (UK v Argentina)
by cofty incameron briefly confronted the argentine president cristina fernandez de kirchner when they met at the g20 meeting in mexico today.. the prime minister told ms fernandez she should "respect the views" of islanders who are taking part in a referendum on the issue of control.
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I'll freely admit that the concept of self-determination is Cameron's best argument for keeping the islands. My point has always been that this is the only valid British talking point; the legal title to the islands has always been of a dubious nature. British control of the islands is now a fait accompli after so many years of settlement and administrative control. Now it's a matter of not being able to put the toothpaste back into the tube, and this stalemate demonstrates this analogy quite aptly.
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David Cameron Confronts Cristina Fernandez (UK v Argentina)
by cofty incameron briefly confronted the argentine president cristina fernandez de kirchner when they met at the g20 meeting in mexico today.. the prime minister told ms fernandez she should "respect the views" of islanders who are taking part in a referendum on the issue of control.
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Being that the sources are themselves British officials who were part of Cameron’s mission to the G20 conference in Los Cabos, I find it of little note that they thought Fernandez was ‘rambling’. It’s a standard reaction to say that of someone when they have something lengthy to say in a response that you do not want to hear. Fernandez, for her part, was only asking the UK government to come to the table and talk about outstanding issues regarding the Malvinas – the same position held by many others, including the UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon, Barack Obama, and Hillary Clinton. Cameron for his part thought that the self-determination referendum in the islands should be the end of the matter. He spoke with the confidence of someone already assured of the vote’s outcome.
It is Argentina’s eternal misfortune that the concept of ‘self-determination’ was an inapplicable one to the British government in the 1830s when it came to their own interests in the South Atlantic. The Hague Convention of 1907 wasn’t in effect, and naturally laws cannot be applied ex post facto. All Argentina could do was go to the UN Committee on Decolonisation in New York and raise her periodic objections. Our foreign minister, Hector Timmerman, made a few comments after the Cameron-Fernandez confrontation while detailed the Argentine position on the matter.
It’s of no consequence to me that I am indirectly accused of ‘rambling’ on the Malvinas thread. The curious thing about that is that after I quoted from several British sources that they knew their legal title to the Malvinas was tenuous under modern international law, a couple posters then ceremoniously cleansed their hands of the argument and claimed they had better things to do. It was a natural reaction, since they were unprepared to offer commentary on the various British Foreign Office admissions that I had detailed. Now we get to the accusation of ‘rambling’. Being the only articulator of the Argentine position, and answering several posters’ questions or comments in the same post, my comments did indeed jump from one point to another. If you seek to discredit them by labeling them as ‘rambling’, then that's your prerogative. My true sin was in challenging the self-perceived intellectual authority of a few by offering my own commentary which wasn’t in line with the prevailing opinion. A few egos might have been wounded, but that was not my intention at all. Lest I be accused now of ‘rambling’ further, I’ll bring my comments to a close.
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District Convention Lunches... Invisibly present since... (1995)?
by darthfader inthanks to billy the x for connecting the "invisible lunch".... .
anyone remember when they quit providing lunch?
was it around the same time that the publications went to "complete donation bases"?.
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I always found the District Conventions disgusting exercises in close proximity to people you'd typically ignore at a similarly attended sport event. How can all those people eat in a relatively quiet environment and not lose their appetites?
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A Pettion for US Residents to Suspend Tax Exemption From Religious Cults deadline July 1st
by discreetslave inthis petition is to actively encourage congress to revise usc title 26 501 (and possibly 170) so that all tax exempt organizations must promote freedom of religion and speech to its members and employees.. .
congress should authorize the irs to promulgate regulations; investigate members, employees, and former members complaints; and enforce legislation.
an organizations tax exempt status should be suspended for not less than 3 years that does not promote freedom of religion and speech to its members and employees and instead intimidates or coerces them.. .
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I did not realise that the amount of a pay cheque could definitively prove a point one way or another. After all, van Gogh sold his artwork for bowls of soup. Plug in that logic, and an example of Thomas Kinkade's work would trump De sterrennacht.
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How would you like it if Jehovah took a vacation from you?
by irondork infrom the platform: when encouraging school-age children to use their summer, and adults to use their secular vacations for pioneering, we were asked, how would you like it if jehovah took a vacation from you?.
w/82 5/15 zealous parents produce missionaries p.11.
we were brought up in a happy theocratic home where our parents helped us to love and live the truth.
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Question: How would you like it if Jehovah took a vacation from you?
Answer: Since 'Jehovah' and 'Jehovah's Witnesses' are synonymous terms from their line of thinking, I wouldn't mind it in the least. That's the problem with this religion. Be it a two day weekend or month long holiday, everyone needs a vacation. What sort of employer would actively encourage their employees to try to get some serious work done while on holiday? As anyone who has managed subordinates would tell you, that kind of slave driving mentality takes a huge bite out of morale and encourages huge turnover rates. The Society has long run their religion as a business, so it's about time they started thinking about their own members' morale and mental health, while finding creative ways to retain the people they do have. Every place I have worked at had at one point or another bought lunch for their employees and at least one social event a year at a restaurant. Why can't the Society shell out $50 for a pizza night after the meeting at the KH? The only social events in the JWs are planned completely independent of Brooklyn. Whatever fun there is to have at these events, they want to regulate anyway. The folks who spawn these dictates need to be the first to practice what they preach. So after they're finished speaking at a convention in Hawaii or a quaint Euro city, they need to have a quick sandwich and hit the streets in street witnessing instead of having filet mignon at their 5-star hotel restaurant. Only then should people ever consider taking time off from holiday to serve their publishing empire.
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Australians! Please help!
by Las Malvinas son Argentinas ini have an oral presentation tomorrow, and i need to know the correct pronunciation of a few geographical features in your country that i can read on paper, but have never heard in spoken language.. so please, if you will, spell out for me phonetically how you would say the following:.
1. adelaide.
2. melbourne .
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Broken Promises:
Thank you for the authentic pronunciations! The only two I was off on were Brisbane and Adelaide (Brisbane rhymed with 'pain', and Adelaide came out as 'ADEL-ade'). But you corrected me in time, and the presentation went well! I'd try and say something witty about "Down Under", but we in Argentina are even more so down under. Buenos Aires is at about the same latitude as Mel-ben, and our Tierra Del Fuego province almost extends to Antarctica. So from one side of the Southern Hemisphere to the next, muchas gracias!
Diest:
In English, the Falkland Islands are pronounced "The Malvinas". Emphasis on the 'i'. But that was in an Argentine accent. Unfortunately, in a British accent they are "The Maaalvinas" ('Mal' rhymes with 'pal'). Admittedly, I would not be a good source for that since I've never called them "The Falklands". But if you really must know, they are "Falklands" with a short first 'a', somewhere between 'folk' and 'falk'. The 'a' in 'land' sounds like 'lund'. If you drag out the 'a' in 'falk', then you have the North American pronunciation.
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why jesus never tempted with sex?
by criticalwitness ini mean really whats the number one reason a dub gets kicked out the org?
one of stongest natural desires and he was supposed to be a full fledged human all desires and everything i mean satan tempted him with food but no sexual pleasure?
and was he attracted to women?
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The discrepancy with Jesus' ancestry in Matthew and Luke is because Matthew followed his ancestry through Joseph, while Luke followed it through Mary. Joseph is claimed to have descended from the royal line of Solomon, while Mary came from the line of Nathan, one of David's other sons. This is possibly due to the writer's realisation that Jesus could not truly be one of David's descendants because it was made quite clear that Joseph wasn't his biological father. The line through Mary had to be explored, and so it was.
I wouldn't go so far as to say that Jesus never existed. Just because there are no Roman records of his execution doesn't mean that he was not. If they kept records (or more fittingly, if the records somehow survived centuries of war and plunder), it would have to be quite an extensive list. I think that they (both Romans and Jews) thought he was a crazed eccentric who was causing trouble at the temple, and thought they were getting rid of a nuisance. There obviously was someone who was a self-styled teacher who claimed divine origin. What makes this so hard to believe? The details of his life and miracles performed are more suspect than his very existence.